Former president Donald Trump is facing multiple legal trials during an election year. But despite the trials hurting his ability to campaign, Senator J.D. Vance believes they’re actually “really helping Trump politically.” Sen. Vance joins Glenn to explain how Trump is turning these legal attacks, including the hush money “sham trial” in New York, into effective campaigning tools. In fact, they may have even allowed Trump to say the “line of the year.” Sen. Vance also weighs in on the rumors that he could be Trump’s VP pick and why one of Biden’s recent actions “should offend every person in this country.”
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GLENN: So let's talk a little bit about Trump and the trial. This trial is -- is more than just a kangaroo court.
This is -- there's nothing to this trial.
How do you think it's going?
J.D.: Well, I think it's -- I mean, the only thing that really matters, of course, is the court of public opinion.
Because such a sham trial.
I don't think it will hold up on appeal. The basic argument here is that he falsified documents in order to commit a crime. They can't even identify which crime he allegedly committed. It's very hard to imagine anything like that can hold up on appeal.
Now, look, it is highlighting how corrupt the justice system has gotten in certain parts of our country.
Right?
So you have the number three person is Biden's DOJ, who jumps ship and goes and joins a local prosecutor office to participate in this. By the way, he also turned down a DNC paid consultant.
Then you have, of course, the Soros-funded prosecutor who brings the case, being presided over by as literal campaign donor to Biden Harris, who is preventing Donald Trump from even speaking on the merits of the case or in the court of public opinion.
So I think it's really helping Trump politically. Which again, I think it's all that matters. Because those people, who have any sense of fairness, recognize that this is a sham trial.
And so long as it's helping Trump get elected. I think that's what matters most.
GLENN: I will tell you, I think the line maybe of the year.
We're not finished yet. But I think the line maybe of the year. Is Donald Trump when he came out. I think it was yesterday.
And said, the Constitution is well worth me going to jail for.
It's -- it's worth more than me trying to stay out of jail.
So put me in jail. And I thought, wow!
That -- I mean, that is a strong, strong stance.
VOICE: By the way, driving home the stakes, doesn't it?
This guy is literally trying to prevent him from speaking. Right? The Democrats have made this a major political issue. The Democrats are funding off of it.
You know, the Biden Harris campaign sitting around, fundraising emails. Oh, isn't it funny that Donald Trump's (inaudible) sent us money. And yet, the judge is preventing Trump from participating in what is right now, the most lively political debate, of -- of the country.
So it really -- again, I think just drives home how much these guys have lost their mind.
And, you know, you -- I have even seen polls here that Biden -- people who plan to vote for Joe Biden recognize it's fundamentally a sham trial.
Now, here's the crazy thing about this, Glenn, is I do a lot of hostile media. You know, it's one of the things I like to do, is sort of take our case to the other side. And I've sat in green rooms with people, who months ago, were angry at Alvin Bragg for bringing this case.
Because it was such a weak case. Now that it's the only case that's actually gone to trial. Because the rest of them have fallen apart.
You see the media sees them treating it as legitimate. I don't think anyone believes them, right? There's just no credibility here, and everything further erodes their ability is in my view, a good thing.
GLENN: So let me ask you a couple of other questions.
I know we have a limited time. Let me first stop with the campus funding protesting.
Biden holding back aid, bullets to Israel.
Isn't this exactly what Donald Trump is impeached for.
He held back congressionally approved javelins from Ukraine.
And now, Biden is holding back ammunition, from Israel.
What's the difference?
J.D.: There isn't any difference. Of course. The only real difference is, I think that Donald Trump actually was engaged in diplomacy and was negotiating with the Ukrainian and also other folks in the region, about how much aid they should be providing. Of course, it shouldn't just be America. Whether you support Ukraine or not. What's different about this, is I think you're taking one of those few truly bipartisan issues in this country, that we should be supporting our allies. Israel.
And you're allowing it to be dictated bit far left. Now, I have a little bit of a different take on this, Glenn.
I think what Biden is doing is really killing two political birds with one stone here.
One, as I've been warning for months. We don't have enough ammunition to send to Ukraine and Israel simultaneously. We have to pick one.
Well, the Biden administration I think, has picked the corrupt Ukrainian regime over our long-term allies.
But simultaneously, he's going to his left flank, and saying, the reason I'm doing this, is because Bibi is bad. And because we don't like the way that Bibi is prosecuting the war. So he gets to tell his left flank what they want to hear, while covering for the fundamental failure of his foreign policy.
It's one of the reasons, Glenn, it was such a bad idea for Republicans to give Biden this security supplemental. It's such a big bill. That it sort of allows Biden to hide his priorities. And sort of have his cake. And eat it too.
GLENN: The other thing I want to talk to you about. Is the health care that is now going to illegal migrants.
How does this president, get away with so much executive power?
That they're -- nobody gave him the authorization to do this.
Nobody gave him the authorization to spend all of this money.
Nobody gave him the authorization to relieve or to forgive, quote, all those loans.
And tie them to the back of the taxpayer.
This is a very important concept in our -- in our Constitution.
It's why congressmen have to be reelected every two years. Because we want to -- them to answer for the money they just spent or allowed to be spent.
What --
J.D.: Well, you're right, Glenn. We know at this point, bide citizen a tyrannical president that will violate the law. Does and it is a violation of the law.
But I don't want to let us off the hook here. We should know at this point, when we appropriate Joe Biden, a big chunk of money. He will sometimes violate the law in the way he actually distributes it. And this means, Congress will actually have to take a little bit more assertive of a role. Has to be willing to cut off certain appropriations, not by writing these blank checks.
This is really important, Glenn.
Congress increasingly, you know, again, with its massive security supplemental. When you write Joe Biden a check. You can't go to the American people. And say, well, he's doing this illegally.
But that's true. You know he will do it illegally. So we have to be more careful about how we give this guy authority in the first place.
I have to say, Glenn Beck. This giving health care to illegal Americans, it should offend every single American. We have a social safety net in this country.
Medicaid exists for impoverished people to help pay their medical bills. If you allow folks who cannot be in this country to begin with, who are here illegally, to literally take from the mouths of American poor children, so that we can fund their health care. Then whose side are you really on?
And I think it's becoming increasingly clear. That Biden does not like the people who currently make up the citizenry of this country.
And he's trying to change the way the country operates.
The way that we distribute resources.
The way that we vote. And that's what his illegal immigration push is all about.
GLENN: Well, I just can't believe that those at the very bottom of the scale.
The ones that the Democrats have said the Democrats care about forever.
The black families that are trapped in Chicago. And are barely making ends meet.
How are they to view the government, when they're not getting -- you know, they're not being put up in a hotel someplace. They're not getting all these perks.
And yet, we're doing it for people who just came here.
I mean, if I were on the receiving end. Or on the need. End of this. And I was a citizen.
I would be like, dude, what are you doing? You never did this for me. You never did this for my family, as we were struggling.
J.D.: Absolutely. They just came here, and a lot of them came here illegally, Glenn. We have veterans who can't afford healthcare who are sleeping on park benches. At the same time, we're handing out free health care, to people, who violated the law, to come to this country, in the first place.
It's completely disgraceful.
And I think a lot of people should be looking around and saying, who does Joe Biden actually stand for?
Right? The Democrats say they care about the little guy.
Let me send you a brief story, Glenn. I have a new good friend of mine, who is getting up there in years.
Who is now eligible for Social Security. He basically found out that there are a number of illegal aliens, who have used his Social Security number to get a whole host of benefits, including Social Security benefits.
When he went to the government and said, hey, I would like to know who is using these things. So I could report it to the police. They basically told him, no. We don't reveal people's personal information, even illegal aliens who are committing Social Security fraud.
This is the kind of country that Joe Biden has created, where the very things that we do as a country, to help the least fortunate, are being given away to illegal aliens instead of mesh citizens.
I cannot stand it.
GLENN: Hmm.
JD. Thank you so much. Senator J.D. Vance from Ohio.
Always good to have you on. Thank you.